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Salango's avatar

Looking forward the next article. I have my own thesis as how this 'Network Union' will form and what will it take them to make significant social change. I think the Discord elections in Nepal is a sign that we are close to see many 'pirate nations' starting to take an active role on governance by challenging the nation-state legitimacy to rule

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Rainbow Roxy's avatar

Thanks for writing this, it clarifies a lot. This whole 'cloud first' concept realy resonates! It makes me think about how easily my online book club started, just a few friends connecting from different cities. The idea of scaling that up to a country is wild, but you make a compeling case. So insightful!

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Anatoly Kern's avatar

The “start in the cloud” is better understood through the analogy of cloud seeding. There are biological, physical, and resource constraints, as well as synchronization and bandwidth limits. Ultimately, such systems only provide platforms for coordinating “rainfall” over particular territories or locations, which can be reinforced by 'from the ground up' movements.

There is no purely top-down or purely bottom-up model that works. The closer and more meaningful the desired connection, the stronger the community spirit needs to be — and the longer it takes to build. This mirrors how any relationship grows: family, friends, coworkers.

For example, the suggested pathway could also apply to public interfaces for local communities. Groups formed within a geographic territory could gradually move to locations better suited to their priorities and size, with more transparent and frequent member transitions and exchanges within aligned communities connected online.

An autonomy-first approach also has limits: it tends to break down under external pressure or any internal conflicts. A solid base must rely on strongly synced dyads, families, and second-degree (4–7) local circles of regular connections for long-term stability.

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Parallel Citizen's avatar

Beauty. Vitalik talked about this idea of legitimacy that I think ties well with starting new countries and other such radical experiments. At what point do things go from being "fun online community" to "legitimate nation-building"?

https://vitalik.eth.limo/general/2021/03/23/legitimacy.html

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